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Geschrieben von AlexR am 30.12.2013 um 12:43:

  Mox Diamond + Phyrexian Metamorph

Wenn ich mit Metamorph einen Mox Diamond kopiere, muss ich eine Karte discarden?

"Any enters-the-battlefield abilities of the copied permanent will trigger when Phyrexian Metamorph enters the battlefield. Any "as [this] enters the battlefield" or "[this] enters the battlefield with" abilities of the chosen permanent will also work."

"If Mox Diamond would enter the battlefield" ist ja aber eine exotische Sache.
Replacement effect beim ins Spiel kommen, der wird doch nicht mitkopiert, oder?

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Geschrieben von mich am 30.12.2013 um 13:07:

  RE: Mox Diamond + Phyrexian Metamorph

Ich würde sagen er kommt als Mox Diamond rein (enter the battlefield as a copy) und dadurch greift der Replacement Effect des "neuen" Mox Diamond, da ja Mox Diamond ins Spiel kommen will.

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Geschrieben von Jan666 am 30.12.2013 um 15:28:

 

"6/1/2011: Any enters-the-battlefield abilities of the copied permanent will trigger when Phyrexian Metamorph enters the battlefield. Any "as [this] enters the battlefield" or "[this] enters the battlefield with" abilities of the chosen permanent will also work."
magiccards.info

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Geschrieben von AlexR am 30.12.2013 um 16:27:

 

Zitat:

Original von Jan666 "6/1/2011: Any enters-the-battlefield abilities of the copied permanent will trigger when Phyrexian Metamorph enters the battlefield. Any "as [this] enters the battlefield" or "[this] enters the battlefield with" abilities of the chosen permanent will also work." magiccards.info

Jo, danke fürs zitieren aus dem Anfangspost.
Auf dem Mox steht nix von enters-the-battlefield, as enters oder enters with.

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Geschrieben von Jan666 am 30.12.2013 um 17:51:

 

Die Regel will sagen, dass Triggered Abilities und Replacement Effects greifen.

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Geschrieben von FeMi am 06.01.2014 um 02:34:

 

mit ja oder nein antworten is auch sowieso total 90er...

versäum ich auch nix wenn ich nur alle paar wochen hier reinles

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Geschrieben von OdinFK am 06.01.2014 um 14:07:

 

Ja. [für FeMi]

Der korrekte Weg zu diesem Ergebnis wird in den Comprehensive Rules wie folgt beschrieben

"616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected object's controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply, following the steps listed below. If two or more players have to make these choices at the same time, choices are made in APNAP order (see rule 101.4). #

616.1a If any of the replacement and/or prevention effects are self-replacement effects (see rule 614.15), one of them must be chosen. If not, proceed to rule 616.1b. #

616.1b If any of the replacement and/or prevention effects would modify under whose control an object would enter the battlefield, one of them must be chosen. If not, proceed to rule 616.1c. #

616.1c If any of the replacement and/or prevention effects would cause an object to become a copy of another object as it enters the battlefield, one of them must be chosen. If not, proceed to rule 616.1d. #

616.1d Any of the applicable replacement and/or prevention effects may be chosen. #

616.1e Once the chosen effect has been applied, this process is repeated (taking into account only replacement or prevention effects that would now be applicable) until there are no more left to apply. #"